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Bay Tree
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Date of photo: 1984 |
Picture source: Barry
Roberts |
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The Bay Tree
was situated in New Road and
must have closed in the late 90s or early 2000s and was a well-regarded real
ale pub. It was later known as The Sorcerer and then The Graduate but has now been converted into
flats. |
Source: Gary Reggae |
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This was a rare Gale's outlet (one of only two)
in the 1970s. This had ceased to be a traditional pub by the late 1970s. |
Bob Steel (June 2011) |
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I moved from 'up north' to Sot'on back in 1968 at the time
Whitbreads and Watleys were taking over and then closing many old breweries,
I could not drink their Watleys Starlight or Whitbreads Tankard bland brews
so I drank Lager for a few years, I then I discovered The Bay Tree, and
Gales ales and did not look back, I recall there was a fair few times when
the express trains from London were at peak travelling times in the late
afternoons for some reason forced to make a unplanned for stop on the lines
behind the pub, so the then landlord whipped up a publicity stunt by asking
the railway bosses "if you could build in a planned 5 minute stopped by the
pub so commutThis pub was just by the city centre parks and they had some
terrific local and well known national bands appearing there, which packed
the place out. On a warm summer evening they had to open the large windows
at the front so you'd always get a few free shows from time to time. A young
Terry Rolph of Avenue Artistes used to live at this family pub and this
influenced his future years as a booker/agent along with Len Canham and Bob
James".
Southern Hampshire CAMRA held its first meeting in 1974 at the Bay Tree. Not
listed in Later CAMRA guides the 1978 one says "A plain city-centre pub near
the College of Technology. 10 New Road. It was a Gales pub. (now sadly
closed & converted to flats).
The 'Bay Tree' was the home of the Fo'c'sle Club, with John Paddy
Browne acting as Master of Ceremonies. The first meeting was held in the Bay
Tree Inn in New Road on Friday May 10, 1963. The artists appearing included
Bob Davenport and The Balladeers. John Paddy Browne recalls: "John and I
discussed having a proper opening ceremony, but before this could be
decided, I had to go down to the railway station to collect Bob Davenport.
"Bob and I stopped off at a cafe for a meal before the show, but my watch
stopped and we were late back to The Bay Tree. We arrived to find The
Balladeers in full swing. If there had been an opening ceremony, we'd missed
it."
From that night on, Friday Fo'c'sle nights alternated between informal
sessions featuring local musicians and singers, and guest nights when top
folk artists appeared. Among the early guests were Sydney Carter, Cyril
Tawney and Alex Campbell. A high standard of music became synonymous with
Bay Tree sessions. Strictly speaking, the club's crowd limit was around 50,
but at least double that number usually crammed in.
The local police and Fire authorities all enjoyed their official visits so
much that they turned a blind eye to the over-crowding and the possibility
of the room collapsing into the public bar below. MacColl, in his
autobiography, recalls the place being so packed that there wasn't enough
oxygen for him to light a match.
The Fo'c'sle had to look for another venue in 1965 when new licensees with
no interest in folk music moved into The Bay Tree.
Another anecdote I've heard is that Rod Stewart! known as 'Rod the Mod' in
his early days, was very well known for his excesses whenever he travelled
down from London and tore the audiences apart with his amazing voice,
attitude and stage presence. It seems that Rod played at the Bay Tree Inn
and got drunk before trying to run some guy over as he commandeered a car -
the chap had apparently heckled him onstage!
I remember an afternoon when I worked for Southampton City Council and I was
drinking in the 'Bay Tree' with Eddie Reed (God rest his soul), Mayor of
Southampton , who 'infamously' was held responsible for closing the bird
aviary in the parks. Anyway the wall at the top of the stairs was absolutely
covered in autographs by many, many jazz music greats and not a few from
Folk. It was painted over by the new, caring, Landlord who looked not unlike
Mick Fleetwood (drummer Fleetwood Mac) who on this occasion told me that
Jimi Hendrix had signed his name when he played in the pub. I'm sure that
the number of venues that Hendrix is supposed to have played in is probably
greater than the places Henry the 8th slept in.
In the 1990's The landlords name was Fred Gilante and he bred
Chihuahuas. Fred weighed about 25 stones and was quite a character.
ers could have a swift pint in the pub", it did not happen off course but it
got the pub a fair few inches of newspaper write ups, great pub in its
heyday. |
Barry Taylor (July 2011) |
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The Bay Tree was my local when I was a student at Southampton University
from 1979 to 1982. At that time it was still a very traditional pub serving
Gales ales. The landlord was called Fred and there was a regular barman
called Dennis who was a great guy. I don't know when it closed. It was still
around for a year or two at least after I left, but its closure was a big
loss. It was one of three Gales pubs in the city, along with the Masons on
St. Mary's Road and a pub whose name I forget that was on (I think)
Portswood Road. |
S Rushall (January 2012) |
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I can remember that The Moody Blues used to play in there regularly in the
late 1960s/early 1970s. |
Jane Clarke (February
2013) |
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The Bay Tree in Southampton was a favourite hang out during my student days:
1973 - 1976. The beer (Gales) was not only excellent and well kept (rare in
those days) but also cheap. I seem to recall paying as little as 11p for a
pint of mild, with HSB (~13p?) afforded only on special occasions and the
Winter Brew much enjoyed when in season and with a distinctive flavour of
bananas. At that time the pub itself was splendidly basic, hosting an
eclectic mix of students, dockers, truckers and some friendly ladies
from nearby Derby Road. I don't recall Rod Stewart playing there but I might
do the next time I have a few pints of HSB. |
Jerry Chessell (February
2014) |
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I moved from 'up north' to Sot'on
back in 1968 at the time Whitbreads and Watleys were taking over and then
closing many old breweries, I could not drink their Watleys Starlight or
Whitbreads Tankard bland brews so I drank Lager for a few years, I then I
discovered The Bay Tree, and Gales ales and did not look back, I recall
there was a fair few times when the express trains from London were at peak
travelling times in the late afternoons for some reason forced to make a
unplanned for stop on the lines behind the pub, so the then landlord whipped
up a publicity stunt by asking the railway bosses "if you could build in a
planned 5 minute stopped by the pub so commuters could have a swift pint in
the pub", it did not happen off course but it got the pub a fair few inches
of newspaper write ups, great pub in its heyday. |
Bob Berwick (April 2014) |
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Other Photos |
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Picture source: Bob Bates |
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Picture source: Barry Taylor |
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Picture source: Brian
Living |
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Picture source: Brian
Living |
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